Re: MS

alex bell (ehjb@musica.mcgill.ca)
Fri, 12 Nov 1999 08:11:53 -0500

Most of the problems that you have address will not go away!
I too am very interested in these pro's and con's, and unfortunately am
disappointed that not all of the responses appear in this bulletin board.
Perhaps there is reasons for the Ombudsman to be involved so that names are
removed prior to presentation to this bulletin board. What to do with
Advertisements, slanderous comments and downright biases - I don't know but
I think that individuals have to decide from all of the propaganda!
Responses from experienced users would, I think be the most informative.
Some of the art, style and expertise of individuals may make some their labs
more impressive, better, but this may provide some guidance.
alex (Anat & Cell Biol, McGill University, Montreal, Quebec, Canada)
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Bloom <Jim.Bloom.B@bayer.com>
To: Recipients of ABRF List <abrf@aecom.yu.edu>
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 10:35 AM
Subject: MS

> When we received our sparkling new single quad ESI-MS seven years ago
> we were overwhelmed...wow could we do stuff we had never dreamed was
possible!
> After about two years of experience we became jaded...just think what we
could
> do with more sensitivity, accuracy, resolution and if only we could
sequence
> those peptides in the map on-line!! So, we are now in the position that
we
> will be able to upgrade sometime in the forseeable future and I notice
that the
> times have changed. In the "old days" we would purchase a triple quad.
Triple
> quads now seem to be passe' and the ion trap has become the work horse.
The
> new kid on the block seems to be the orthogonal ESI/TOF. So what to
do...what
> to do? I have talked to a trusted vendor of ion traps and was told that
if we
> have the money we should buy an othogonal ESI/TOF. We have arrived at the
> subject of this email. Two vendors sell ESI/TOFs: Micromass with their
QTOF
> and QTOF2 and PE SCIEX and their QSTAR. I am convinced that both
companies
> sell instruments that we would be happy with...however there are always
pros
> and cons and I would appreciate any input regarding the following
questions:
> 1.) Most of the hype revolves around differences in resolution, 5,000
> vs 7500 vs 10,000 etc. In practical terms, is the difference between
5,000 and
> 7,500 significant...how about 5,000 vs 10,000 (I see one can pay an extra
> $100,000 for the difference).
> 2.) We are buying an instrument to do sequencing...we have no
> experience doing MS sequencing...I am told the correct software will make
or
> break us. I am told that one vendor has had excellent software for years
and
> the other has not quite released theirs yet. Should we go for the vendor
with
> the software (a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush)?
> 3.) How about the intangibles...service, support, robustness etc....
> Does one vendor stand out in these areas?
> 4.) Perhaps the ion trap vendor was being too modest and we should buy
> an ion trap??
> 5.) Finally, assuming we buy a fancy new machine should we dispose of
> our trusty old single quad? Reading the mail I see that we may want to
keep it
> so that we can continue to do the classic "Steve Carr" method of SIM
analysis
> to figure out which peak in our peptide map contains glycosylated
peptides.
>
> Weather inconsequential: the Bay area got its first significant rain for
the
> season a few days ago and I turned off the automatic sprinklers for the
back
> yard (another gopher/mole season comes to an end).
>
> Jim Bloom
> Bayer Corp
> Berkeley
> 510-705-7760
> jim.bloom.b@bayer.com
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